How would you attack this?

JustinL67

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First of all, please excuse how disgustingly filthy the car is, today is the first break in the rain in like 3 years up here.



94 black mustang





Rotary holograms



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swirls



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scratches



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rock chips? Theres like a thousand of them but you can't feel them with a fingernail, little white specs in the pain on the front of the hood



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Looks like clear coat failure in the last shot. Not going to fix that. As for the other stuff, what tools do you have?
 
With a a re-paint? lol



But seriously, that will require at least a FLEX, preferably a rotary and probably a 3-4 step polishing.



Also, the rock chips won't be fixed unless you fill them all by hand, and then carefully wet sand them down to level them, and then when you compound and polish the car it should blend them fairly well. If you have never done this before, it is not something I would attempt to learn on a scale like that.



That car needs a pro...
 
Alright, then if not worrying about what requires actual repair work, what products would you use with a porter cable? Can those holograms and swirls at least get taken out?
 
Yeah, they can. I've gotten decent correction with 5" orange pads and 3M 06060/2 compounds, but it takes a long time. You'll need another 1-2 stages of polishing to remove the haze from the compound. With a PC, that may be a 2 day job.
 
I have taken out swirls like that with a PC 4 inch yellow pad with Menzerna power gloss. Followed with sip, 4 inch orange pad( some really bad sections might need to passes) then super finish grey pad.5.5 inch.

Work slow with pressure and watch the swirls disappear. I would wet sand a small portion of the hood and see what happens, worst case you need to repaint the hood.
 
Do you have the right tools and polishes?



Do you have the time and facilities?



What are the customer expectations in both end product and price?



Will you need to detail under the hood?



Interior?



Clear up questions such as these first.



I could take this on, with my Flex, but not a PC (IMO-PC = too much time). It seems to me a job best started with a rotary and finished with a rotary or Flex.
 
I'd srart with a 4 inch cutting pad and Power Gloss compound. Something with some balls that can be worked for a reasonable amount of time. You'll be able to get it looking nice, but not anywhere close to perfect because of the PC.
 
Alright let me try and rephrase this question,



If you had a PC, what products on what pads would you use to do as good of a job as you reasonably could on this car, conceding that the hood and some of those scratches can't be fixed.
 
3M extra cut on 5.5" orange pads, maybe 2-3 passes with that. Speed 5.

Some polish to clean up haze, such as IP or 106FF, on white or green.

Finishing polish 106FF, 85RD, UF, whatever on a non-abrasive foam like black, red, blue, gold.



That's what I've done to fix deep water etching on my red F150. It's a pain because that's 4-5 passes total, not including LSP.
 
David Fermani said:
I'd srart with a 4 inch cutting pad and Power Gloss compound. Something with some balls that can be worked for a reasonable amount of time. You'll be able to get it looking nice, but not anywhere close to perfect because of the PC.



This is good advice. Do you have 4" pads and any compound? If you have nothing besides a PC and want to know what to buy then I would suggest SSR3 and a LC 6" yellow cutting pad and or 3.5" PFW. I have found SSR3 to the most aggressive compound via PC. After that SIP with a LC 6.5" orange pad, that should look after any haze from compounding. Next 106FA with a LC white polishing pad, this will really improve the gloss. If you want to take it one step further then use 106FA or even better 85RD with a LC blue pad. These are products I have used with great success (haven't used a 3.5" PFW though) on some really nasty paint. A good amount of pressure is needed to during the compounding and polishing steps to be effective, this is only a suggestion, as well as years of experience ;).
 
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