Clients wanting Zymol

Mobilejay

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Hello all. I have never been one for Zymol just because I thought it was all advertising. I have read a lot of reviews on it but don't know if I would want it on my cars. Anyway, I am starting to hear more and more from clients of mine that they are wanting me to apply some Zymol. I am more of a sealant guy myself and even though I explain to them the difference they are still wanting Zymol.

Is there really a difference between the Japon, and Volvo wax, Porsche wax etc etc. If you were to apply the wax for Saab on a Porsche, would it look different than Glasur on the Porsche? I think I would probably just go with concours. The ones that are wanting to try this stuff out have darker color vehicles and are higher end cars. Also how much different is the wax for the red cars than other waxes? They make it so damn confusing to me thats another reason I never went with them. If I have a client with a red Porsche, should I get the wax for Porsches or the red wax? I have been reading posts on here all day, and going back and forth from the Z site and this site I am going to lose my mind. Some insight will be greatly appreciated. Thank you
 
I have no experience regarding zymol but if you're clients are requesting it then I think you should charge a premium for it as the stuff isn't cheap.
 
If they insist on Zymol, go for Concours or another Estate Glaze. Swissvax is a great choice as well. In that line, I would opt for Concorso or Saphir, both excellent choices.
 
Concours is a good pick. I would charge a significant extra fee though - Zymol had a bad habit of streaking for some of the guys I know, and it ended up taking them an extra 25-30 minutes over a sealant or some other waxes out there to remove properly.
 
I own Vintage, and have used quite a few of Zymol's products. (Last summer I was seriously considering becoming a Zymol authorized detailer and reseller). I must admit that I really do like the Vintage, but for my own reasons; I like the way that it spits contaminants off when washing. It's made it possible for me to do effective touch-free washes. And the fact that it's a lifetime supply is nice, too. I'll definitely be getting more than my money's worth out of the free refills.



OK, so that's the pluses. The minuses: The cost of entry, for sure. And while there's no doubt that it is a *very* nice looking wax, I really don't think it looks *that* much better than say, Souveran, or any of the other higher end waxes. He!!, P21S100% looks every bit as good as the Vintage does, IMO, for alot less money. Honestly, I don't think your clients would ever be able to tell if you used one of Zymol's estate glazes or something like P21S, Souveran, etc. If you really are serious about using a Zymol EG wax, and you really are serious about detailing for a while, you might want to consider the investment in Vintage. Those free refills come in realy handy. If not, then just go with Titanium, Glasur, or Concours. Any one of those will at least give your clients the Zymol name without breaking the bank. And honestly, your average client will never be able to tell the difference between Titanium or Vintage. All they want is the name.



The other Zymol products I've tried are ok. Nothing spectacular, but they do work well. Just not very cost effective; they don't do nearly as much as they should for the price you have to pay for them.
 
SuperBee364 said:
I own Vintage, and have used quite a few of Zymol's products. (Last summer I was seriously considering becoming a Zymol authorized detailer and reseller). I must admit that I really do like the Vintage, but for my own reasons; I like the way that it spits contaminants off when washing. It's made it possible for me to do effective touch-free washes. And the fact that it's a lifetime supply is nice, too. I'll definitely be getting more than my money's worth out of the free refills.



OK, so that's the pluses. The minuses: The cost of entry, for sure. And while there's no doubt that it is a *very* nice looking wax, I really don't think it looks *that* much better than say, Souveran, or any of the other higher end waxes. He!!, P21S100% looks every bit as good as the Vintage does, IMO, for alot less money. Honestly, I don't think your clients would ever be able to tell if you used one of Zymol's estate glazes or something like P21S, Souveran, etc. If you really are serious about using a Zymol EG wax, and you really are serious about detailing for a while, you might want to consider the investment in Vintage. Those free refills come in realy handy. If not, then just go with Titanium, Glasur, or Concours. Any one of those will at least give your clients the Zymol name without breaking the bank. And honestly, your average client will never be able to tell the difference between Titanium or Vintage. All they want is the name.



The other Zymol products I've tried are ok. Nothing spectacular, but they do work well. Just not very cost effective; they don't do nearly as much as they should for the price you have to pay for them.



I agree with Superbee. I have Vintage too, and I like it for the same reason; I have yet to find any LSP that effectively reduces my wash time/effort as much as Vintage. That said, it's a little finicky to apply and remove, and while I think it looks incredible, it'd take a rare eye to tell it apart from Concours, Concorso, Vic Wax, Souveran etc...



So the question is, is there a product in the Zymol/SW line that looks almost as good, makes cleaning almost as easy, and lasts at least similarly long? Yes. Like others have said, I'd pick up Concours and charge a premium to use it. You will still get 2-3 months out of it (as opposed to ~4 or so from Vintage), it cleans up well, though it doesn't seem to "repel" quite as well as Vintage (which isn't a bad thing, nothing I've tried yet does), and it looks great. It does take a bit longer to apply/remove than say, Souveran, and of course it costs more - so adding $20 per use to the cost of a detail would be advised, and will more than make up for the cost of the jar and time invested using it.
 
Thanks for the replys. I have seen your touch free washes on your posts superbee, and it is very impressive. Although I can't justify spending 2grand on a wax. Unless I charge like 500 just to wax a vehicle. LOL, man that would be nice. I think I will just go with concours, tell you the truth I never thought I would drop almost 200 on a wax either. I'm going to have to charge more to use this stuff. I'm sure some will get pissed about it but oh well. Thanks again
 
Ok, here is a question, what do you use to keep the Zymol looking its best? I can only assume that you wouldnt use a quick detailer on it... Also, would be be something you would use ona daily driven car?
 
05Sleeper said:
Ok, here is a question, what do you use to keep the Zymol looking its best? I can only assume that you wouldnt use a quick detailer on it... Also, would be be something you would use ona daily driven car?



Actually, thanks to DetailDoc, I'm using a very effective QD on the Vintage: FK1 425. It's anti-static properties keep any nuba based LSP from becoming a dust magnet. I let the Vintage cure for several hours, then go over it lightly with the 425. I only do this after the initial application, or if it starts to attract dust. Otherwise, it's touchless automatics or touchless home washes in between wax applications.



Other carnauba based QD's work well, too, but they don't have the anti-static properties that the 425 does. Don't bother with Zymol Field Glaze. It looks good, but it's really expensive for what you get. There's lots of other nuba based QD's that look every bit as good and cost alot less.
 
I have Glasur (and had Titanium) and they are very nice waxes. I dont think they are good VFM, but luckily didnt pay the going retail rate fo them, so do consider them worth my money...



Glasur is VERY easy to use - its a very soft wax, so once you get the hang of thin application, it goes on quick and buffs very easily. I love the wet gloss finish, it beads and sheets amazingly, and last pretty well. A couple of layers easily lasted me all spring, summer and into the autumn over here, before I got bored and tried UPGP.... I have tried it on a number of cars (not Porsche) and I honestly think this entire 'wax tailored to car' line is just that - marketing BS to create niche products that appeal to niche consumers...my Saab convertible looks awesome with Glasur on it as long as I keep telling it that its really a 911 convertible, and please dont tell the MG its not a 356 :lol
 
05Sleeper said:
Ok, here is a question, what do you use to keep the Zymol looking its best? I can only assume that you wouldnt use a quick detailer on it... Also, would be be something you would use ona daily driven car?



I use Vintage on my dd. I use Poorboys QW+ to maintain it in between Vintage applications.
 
Bigpikle, thanks for your response. I might get one of the non EG such as Glasur or Carbon as well as Concours. Thanks again guys.
 
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. I would seriously drive to the house of the person on this board who bought that, and punch them in the face. That goes beyond assinine!!!!



MobileJay said:
Click here

ZYMOL SOLARIS

That should take you to the page.
 
EisenHulk said:
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. I would seriously drive to the house of the person on this board who bought that, and punch them in the face. That goes beyond assinine!!!!



lol easy there! There IS a market for it, doesn't necessarily mean the market is crazy.
 
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