Artificial Intelligence and Detailing:Part 2

Lonnie

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This topic is an extension of my post about AI and detailing I did on December of 2024. You can find it in the list of topics within this sub-forum.
What prompts this post is there is now a start-up company that is gathering videos from human individuals doing "mundane manual tasks" and then using that video information (data) to program AI robots to mimic and duplicate those mundane or repetitive motions to "program" or train these AI learning-assisted robots to do those tasks.
This prompts the question if some enterprising detailer will "sell"(I would prefer to use the term "prostitute", but that just has such a bad connotation and inference, so I will not use it!! Righhhhht, Captain Obvious!) a video of themselves of their detailing a vehicle to this company for the purpose of creating a detailing AI robot. This videoing, apparently, is the new "gig job" and those who have been supplanted (IE, replaced) by AI in their tech and customer service jobs are doing this well-paid service as a way to financially survive. (Hey, if I have done down, so are the rest of you who think you are protected from AI job lose!).
1) Will it happen that mundane human-done jobs, like detailing, will be replaced by robots? Sounds much more short-term realistic than long-term science fiction now.
2) Am I concerned about it? MAYBE if I had a job as a detailer at a car dealer or worked at a car wash or body shop business.
3) Would I use such a service if it became available? Depends on the cost of such a service. If a human-done detailing service charges $500 to detail my vehicle versus a robot-controlled detailing service cost $250, yes, then I MIGHT consider it. Economics (IE; money) always seems to be THE most-important underlying factor in one's decision to use and buy a service.
4) What if these robots become as cost-effective and financially affordable as, say, a used car. Would you buy or lease one?
Not me! I have seen the movie "I, Robot" too many times to let Virtual Interactive Kinetic Intelligence or VIKI-controlled programming into my house or person. Besides, today's Learning-AI or Super Artificial Intelligence (SAI) has already broken Isaac Asimov's (fictitious) "Three Laws of Robotics" used in the above-mentioned movie. If you Google those Three Laws, you will understand why I put "fictitious" in brackets. Learning AI/SAI does NOT adhere to human-controlled programming "laws or limits". Kind of like owning a black vehicle and detailing it constantly attempting to keep it looking concourse-perfect: Does the vehicle own you OR do you own the vehicle? But I digress......quit laughing, although some of you can relate to the black vehicle but not the movie reference!...

What do you Autopians think about this?
 
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I believe Elon Musk has stated that the future growth of Tesla will be based on robots, not cars, but I still think we're pretty far away from that, it's one thing for AI to help inside a computer, it's another thing to have a mechanical device with all its associated power requirements, etc. I think we're 10-15 years from having robots that are practical and could actually help you in your house, etc.

And the world will be over long before then, once AI eats our brains with fake videos and we all kill each other. Elon has been a little optimistic in his predictions before, after all we don't even have "real" self-driving Teslas yet.

PS Great movie, my favorite line is when Sonny is putting his arm through the force field and says "Do you think we were all created for a purpose? I'd like to think so...denser alloy, my father gave it to me...I think he wanted me to kill you!"
 
I'd be really worried if I did production detailing at a dealership. Dealers will do anything to save a penny, having a robot polish up a car vs a human is a huge win. They won't start by doing the whole thing, but they'll start with washing and spray waxing. Why pay for an automated car wash when you can buy a couple of robots and let them do it?
 
Why pay for an automated car wash when you can buy a couple of robots and let them do it?
Um...if the robots cost more than the automated car wash?

Many years ago when all the self-driving car stuff started being bandied about, I read an article that said that no consumers were going to be able to afford a REAL self-driving car, because they would cost $150,000 to actually be self-driving (this was back when $150,000 was a lot and you couldn't easily option out a Suburban to over $100K), and they would be the province of taxi companies who would be happy to pay an extra $100,000+ to get the driver out of the car.

Which brings us to the Tesla RoboTaxi, which I haven't heard is actually in service yet.
 
Speaking of robot-related movies, how about "Bicentennial Man" with the late Robin Williams.
Hey, it was kinda detailing-related because it did have a "Porsche" in it.
(OK, I am stretching it here.)
But it did bring up a moral-ethical question about machines becoming so human-like to grant them status and privileges as such!

Boy, I am REALLY violating my own ethos of keeping this a detailing-content-only forum.
 
Boy I feel like we had this robot movie discussion before. There was a guy from the Optimum forum who wanted to join at AGO and I was trying to help him, then he said forget it they just talk about the same things over and over. Not like us old guys talk about the same thing over and over. Boy, I feel like we had this robot movie discussion before...
 
Um...if the robots cost more than the automated car wash?

Many years ago when all the self-driving car stuff started being bandied about, I read an article that said that no consumers were going to be able to afford a REAL self-driving car, because they would cost $150,000...

Well with a projected cost of $20k for a Tesla robot, that's about $40k in real life with Elon math adjustments. That will get you a marginal automatic car wash from Alibaba. The robots will be able to do quite a bit more. Even plunge your toilet when a customer clogs it.
 
Well with a projected cost of $20k for a Tesla robot, that's about $40k in real life with Elon math adjustments. That will get you a marginal automatic car wash from Alibaba. The robots will be able to do quite a bit more. Even plunge your toilet when a customer clogs it.
Yeah, ok, whenever that actually happens. We were supposed to have full self-driving Teslas in 2018.
 
Yeah, ok, whenever that actually happens. We were supposed to have full self-driving Teslas in 2018.
I hear you, and they aren't driving themselves (legally) everywhere. But FSD is amazing tech. We live in a world of kinda works. I'm in IT, its amazing how 99 computers work perfectly with one app, and the 100th, though seemingly identical, just refuses to do what the others do.
 
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