3D Pads??

pwaug

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Why is it that 3D only offers 3 pads (mild cutting Orange, Polishing Green and Finishing Red) while others offer those as well as White, Blue and Grey/Black?
 
I'm sure Ben can answer better than I can, but my guess is to keep it simple. With UNO, those are the only three you will need. Anything that need any more aggressive cutting will likely require wool. Sure there are some cases you might need something in between, but thats in 1 out of 100 cases, maybe. All the pad colors and variation are nothing more than an attempt to drain your wallet.
 
So if using UNO there is no real advantage to have say a White heavy polishing pad, which seems to be a very popular pad?? Say for something like hard VW clear that has only light swirls?
 
3D does have a white heavy cutting foam pad. It has some serious cut to it. You have to call them to order it. Its not on the web site. This pad is even more aggressive than the LC purple foam wool pads at least to me it seemed like that.
 
pwaug said:
So if using UNO there is no real advantage to have say a White heavy polishing pad, which seems to be a very popular pad?? Say for something like hard VW clear that has only light swirls?



To me, the white LC is very close to the 3D green.
 
At 3D, we strive to make Detailing Simple. Having 1/2 a dozens pads over complicates when you can do the same job with 3.



We do carry a white pad which is ultra aggressive. It is marketed to body shops who need to use wool when they cant. This stuff will practically abrase skin and it tears through clear. :buffing:



It not for the weak of heart and I dont recommend bathing with it. :bathbaby:



:tongue2:
 
ww2717 said:
......This pad is even more aggressive than the LC purple foam wool pads at least to me it seemed like that.



More aggressive, wow. So it's kind of like sandpaper for a rotary. Sounds like a very serious pad.
 
You gus carry the white foam pad? Is that the one I tested a while back Ben? I loved that pad, but never knew you guys started to carry them!
 
Barry Theal said:
You gus carry the white foam pad? Is that the one I tested a while back Ben? I loved that pad, but never knew you guys started to carry them!



We have a limited supply. Break out the Benjamins and we will send ya one. :chuckle:
 
Ben@Autopia said:
At 3D, we strive to make Detailing Simple. Having 1/2 a dozens pads over complicates when you can do the same job with 3.



We do carry a white pad which is ultra aggressive. It is marketed to body shops who need to use wool when they cant. This stuff will practically abrase skin and it tears through clear. :buffing:



It not for the weak of heart and I dont recommend bathing with it. :bathbaby:



:tongue2:
Thanks Ben! Not interested in that white pad. So basically with the Orange, Green and Red Pads I'll be able to remove defects within reason and be able to finish without the need for all the inbetween pads ie white, blue, grey/black offered by others??
 
Grey, black, blue, red - pretty much the same.You are making it too complicated. If you want something else, pick up the black wool pads from 3D.
 
tdekany said:
Grey, black, blue, red - pretty much the same.You are making it too complicated. If you want something else, pick up the black wool pads from 3D.
My concern was more on the aggressive end of the scale. I'm going to use Buff and Shine pads--I believe their Orange and Green are the same as 3D pads (without the black layer), but they also have a White European Foam Heavy Polishing pad. I'm wondering in the interest of using the "least aggressive combo first" if I should get these for use with UNO on my VW which only has very light scratching that runs longitudinal on the car--or will the Orange be all I need for the correction step?
 
With Uno, you should always do a test spot with a softer pad and move more aggressive as needed. Might be surprised how much it cuts. For just minor correction, the orange from buff n shine should be more than enough for most paints.
 
Ben@Autopia said:
With Uno, you should always do a test spot with a softer pad and move more aggressive as needed. Might be surprised how much it cuts. For just minor correction, the orange from buff n shine should be more than enough for most paints.
This is exactly what I'm getting at--as I understand it the B&S White pad (euro foam) is less aggressive than the Orange(euro foam) and more aggressive than the Green(poly foam)--so was trying to decide if I should get some White pads to have a less aggressive alternative to the Orange pad for use on VW clear??? Perhaps I'm over complicating this, but I'm new to machine polishing.
 
pwaug said:
This is exactly what I'm getting at--as I understand it the B&S White pad (euro foam) is less aggressive than the Orange(euro foam) and more aggressive than the Green(poly foam)--so was trying to decide if I should get some White pads to have a less aggressive alternative to the Orange pad for use on VW clear??? Perhaps I'm over complicating this, but I'm new to machine polishing.



The cut between the orange and white euro foam is slight imo. Go with one or the other.



If just picking one, I would go with orange. Would hate to be polishing with a white and wishing for a little more cut. Alternatively, if you are polishing with the orange and want less cut, do less passes.
 
Ben, I just want to thank 3D for keeping it simple, especially in this respect. If it wasn't so sad, it would be humorous, how people are convinced they need a dozen different pads. Marketing is amazing isn't it?
 
Your welcome Dan. glad to be of help and simplicity.



Only a matter of time before someone comes up with the 12 step polishing system with 6 different polishes and 12 different pads. :razz:
 
Ben@Autopia said:
The cut between the orange and white euro foam is slight imo. Go with one or the other.



If just picking one, I would go with orange. Would hate to be polishing with a white and wishing for a little more cut. Alternatively, if you are polishing with the orange and want less cut, do less passes.
Ben--thanks very much for the clear answer--being new to machine polishing it is difficult to cut through all the hype and marketing--so I'll stick with Orange, Green and Red. BTW--Javier is a real asset to 3D--I had a slight problem with one of my shipments and he corrected it in a snap--the kind of customer service that keeps poeple coming back for more.
 
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