23 reasons Zaino rules --->

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TGates

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Simply passing this on to all of you. I lifted this from a thread I found on LS2.com, and as you can see, it was originally written by someone on one of the Mustang boards.



My take? The Zealotism never ceases to amaze me. :rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong...I thoroughly enjoy Zaino, but come on. This guy is ridiculous.



http://smiley.tzo.com/fbody/zaino/docs/zaino_list.txt
 
What's with the attitude? Let people have their opinions, who cares? If some people are addicted to Zaino, so be it. I don't go rolling my eyes at people that say pure carnauba wax is the best thing for your paint just because I don't agree.....I let them voice their opinion.
 
What I will never get about some Zaino guys is why they just can't be happy with it and not slam (and with some incredibile misinformation) other products.



I can say what I like about each product I use without mentioning any other product.
 
MattZ28 said:
What's with the attitude? Let people have their opinions, who cares? If some people are addicted to Zaino, so be it. I don't go rolling my eyes at people that say pure carnauba wax is the best thing for your paint just because I don't agree.....I let them voice their opinion.
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The attitude? I clearly stated what I thought was humorous about this write-up. The fact that anyone would actually go through the work to write all of that is funny to me. I have no doubts the guy knows what he is talking about, but I find it interesting that Sal has done such a good job of marketing his products on the various Mustang, Corvette, F-Body, and Viper forums that there are people out there like this guy who are so dead set on using the stuff that they would go through the trouble of actually listing out twenty three reasons why Zaino is "superior." These guys market the product for him, he has his work all cut out. And hey, I'm glad the guy is around because I use his products, but I certainly don't try to push it on other people, and I DAMN sure don't knock other products just because they're not Zaino.



I just think this guy cuts the cake. With statements like, "Zaino is the easiest product to apply and wipe down (assuming you have

not over-applied it, and have waited long enough for it to dry)." What is he comparing this to? AIO is pretty easy.



I dunno, this text just struck a wrong chord with me.
 
I use Z sometimes and I do think it's a good product just like most of our favorites in this forum but some of the points are kinda funny...



If you ever get waterspots, they are purely superficial. Z6 will wipe them

right off. With other products, waterspots are almost impossible to remove and

require abrasive action.



Wow, really? hehe... I've seen our clients Accord with 9 coats of Z and water spotted right up and requiring DACP to remove.



Zaino chemists have designed paints! Therefore, they know more about what is

good for paints than just about anyone I would imagine.



So technically speaking, we should only buy car care products from DuPont, PPG, Sikkens, BASF, etc. Remember that guys.



It shines from the paint surface itself



So it permeates into the paint and enhances the paint particles?



It literally re-aligns

light rays coming off the surface producing a cleaner look.



Wow, speechless hehe... Does it realign the solar system as well to cause the sun's rays to be cut off from every planet except Mercury?



ZainoMaster!!! How can we argue with a title like that... hehe
 
theveed said:
I use Z sometimes and I do think it's a good product just like most of our favorites in this forum but some of the points are kinda funny...



If you ever get waterspots, they are purely superficial. Z6 will wipe them

right off. With other products, waterspots are almost impossible to remove and

require abrasive action.



Wow, really? hehe... I've seen our clients Accord with 9 coats of Z and water spotted right up and requiring DACP to remove.



Zaino chemists have designed paints! Therefore, they know more about what is

good for paints than just about anyone I would imagine.



So technically speaking, we should only buy car care products from DuPont, PPG, Sikkens, BASF, etc. Remember that guys.



It shines from the paint surface itself



So it permeates into the paint and enhances the paint particles?



It literally re-aligns

light rays coming off the surface producing a cleaner look.



Wow, speechless hehe... Does it realign the solar system as well to cause the sun's rays to be cut off from every planet except Mercury?



ZainoMaster!!! How can we argue with a title like that... hehe
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:doh :cool: :xyxthumbs
 
My theory is that Zaino Zealots exist because most people on the Vette/LS1/Stang boards are used to consumer grade products, then they hear about this mystical product that works wonders...



It's not that Zaino isn't great, it's just that there's a lot of other products that are great also. I think the majority of people think that Zaino is the only polymer sealant out there.
 
Scottwax said:
What I will never get about some Zaino guys is why they just can't be happy with it and not slam (and with some incredibile misinformation) other products.



I can say what I like about each product I use without mentioning any other product.
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btw have u ever used zaino?
 
Ah yes...spoken like a true Zaino Zealot.



Before I found this forum I used to frequent the f-body (ls1.com,ls1tech.com..etc,etc.) forums and was constantly badmouthed by the ZZ's. Heck, the moderator on one of the Show and Shine forums was a Zaino DISTRIBUTOR!!! Needless to say more than one of my threads "disappeared".



WE all need to realize that Zaino is the end-all be-all and that if we are using anything else we are simply using inferior products....end of story. :rolleyes:
 
An entertaining write-up, but I couldn't help but notice a few mistakes/misconceptions in it. :) For example, I don't believe Zaino is 100% solvent free- low solvent (my guess is around 5% total), yes, but not completely devoid of all solvents.



I think what we have here is an overly enthusiastic fellow who did his best to share his Zaino experiences in a manner that agreed with his personal observations. Good thing none of us have ever done that with a favorite/new product before! :D
 
Before I found this site I too felt I would never find or use anything that would compare to Zaino.I still use it,but will give it up once my Z2 bottle is empty.NXT-#16 is looking good to me and then perhaps EX-P or Wolfgang or Klasse,there all good products.That's what makes this site so great!
 
If that was written here, as a non-Z user I'd ignore it. So I think I'm going to ignore it there, too, because I already get the results I want from the process I use, and with that process, the brand names become kind of irrelevant.





Tom
 
Mosca said:
If that was written here, as a non-Z user I'd ignore it. So I think I'm going to ignore it there, too, because I already get the results I want from the process I use, and with that process, the brand names become kind of irrelevant.





Tom
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Sorry, this is kind of off topic, but...



Tom, you're right. Process is hands down more important than the names of the products you are actually using. Many of the skilled detailers on this board can make turtle wax look incredible with the proper prep and technique.



The actual products used come into play in the long term. What sets the best products apart from the average is not the intial day of/day after shine, but their longterm look and feel. I've grown so tired of the crap being peddled on this board based on day of/day after phots/testimonials, it makes me wanna throw up. This 'we're autopians, durability means squat because we wax so often' mentality is a joke.



Durability and long term look/feel ARE what makes a products reputation. If we all 'glazed every three days' then I wouldn't waste my time here, I'd just buy some crap locally and put it on my car every week.



Zaino zealots love zaino for the same reasons that I love klasse... it lasts. And that is a rare attribute found in many of the products sold these days.



I understand where the ZainoMaster is coming from, eventhough some of his points are way off base.



Bill. :up
 
Sorry if I came across the wrong way, I thought you were just flaming him for it. I agree it is pretty ridiculous to spend all the time writing something like that for ANY product.
 
Agreed, Bill, and for me, part of the process I use is frequent waxing. It's neither wrong nor right, just part of my experience that colors my perspective.



Products are just that, products. I think we have all learned something from being here at Autopia:



The car doesn't know what you used on it, or how often. It either shines, or it doesn't shine, and everything else is just talk.



Next time I'm in "control panel", I think I'm gonna make that my sig for a while.





TOm
 
AlBoston said:
btw have u ever used zaino?
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Nope, and never will as long as Dawn washing is part of the equation. The only time Dawn will ever touch my paint is right before a repaint. I understand the reasoning for it though.



I've seen enough cars and trucks with Zaino to know what it looks like (decent but nothing that you can't attain with other products) and I know it is durable (as far as I know, only Klasse is close) but I don't like the idea of using dish detergent on my paint, period.



My point about the list is that I don't see why it is necessary to put down other types of products to show your love for Zaino. Not every user is like that but those that are get irritating after a while. I'd much rather hear the merits of a product than how much other products suck in comparison. Does that make sense? Same thing with politics, I want hear why I should vote for someone, not why I should vote against their opponent.
 
To paraphrase THE RIGHT STUFF...."It isn't the machine, it's the man."



My only encounter with Zainiacs is when they fanatically react to a little ribbing. That turns me off and I'm wondering if there must be something "chemical" in Zaino that leads to the destruction of the "laugher"?



OK, Zaino users. Bring on the pain....:usa
 
This is the exact reason I won't try Zaino...



Some of these people are so incredibly narrow minded it's scary. You wonder how they are in real life :scared . Honestly, with all the hype it gets and how strongly some feel about it, you would think they put an orgasm in a bottle.
 
Scottwax said:
. . . but I don't like the idea of using dish detergent on my paint, period.
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Then don't. I mean, if you don't want to give Z a try, that's fine, but the dish detergent thing really isn't a reason to skip it, IMO. You know the reasoning behind the use of Dawn, so you also know there are several ways to get an oil-free surface that don't involve dish soap (IPA wipedown, Prep-solve, dilute APC+ as a de-waxer, etc.).



I really think Sal would be wise to market a pre-cleaner for use with Z.



1. Throw a pretty scent into some IPA in a sprayer

2. Label it Z-n (where n is some integer not already in the Z line).

3. Profit! :D



Tort
 
In the link, some of the things written are true, and while you may not agree with all of it, some of it, any of it...whatever....I find it interesting that many here are saying that they will never try Zaino.



Yet, these are some of the same folks that will chastise others for NOT trying a product and still making comments.



If you want to make the arguement that a product must be tried before you can comment...make sure you hold yourself to the same standard. Use it yourself, don't just see how it looks when done...try it. I have never been afraid to spend a few bucks to see if this product is the "next great thing".



Another thing I find interesting is that Zaino is constantly bombarded by those that don;t use it...it's users referred to as "zealots"....yet the product seems to remain the "standard" that everyone is shooting for. Or...they'd be comparing to another product.



I have yet to see derogatory names for those that use Meguair's, Clearkote, Klasse, etc.



I have a friend that preps new Jaguars...he keeps his Expedition looking perfect...he swears by Ardex products. As we all know, with the right prep..most products will make a nice shine.



Hey folks...I'm not taking sides...jsut some thoughts. :D
 
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