01 Z06 17 hr correction by Immaculate Reflections

[Steve @ Guru]

I've been reading for sometime (on this forum) that teflon in wax is useless, and I tend to agree with that theory.

However, while trying to do a little research on teflon, I stumbled across this article from DuPont. It seems that they're advocating the use of their product in wax... Now I'm confused!

Anyone care to comment? Anyone have a link to the dupont articles that say teflon doesn't work?

http://www.dupont.com/teflon/fluoroadditives/applications/coatings.html

Thanks in advance.

[edit]In case the link doesn't work, it's address is: www.dupont.com/teflon/fluoroadditives/applications/coatings.htm[/edit]

 

[Chuckmotor]

from what I've read, it's a useless ingredient unless you plan on waxing your car in hell or some other place that's over 600 degrees.

 

[imported_RIC]

but this was cut and pasted from the link...I found it in the archives.



"According to G.R. Ansul of DuPont’s Car Care Products, Specialty Products Division, “The addition of a Teflon® flouropolymer resin does nothing to enhance the properties of a car wax. We have no data that indicates the use of Teflon® fluoropolymer resins is beneficial in car waxes, and we have not seen data from other people that supports this position.â€� Ansul also notes that, “Unless Teflon® is applied at 700 degrees F, it is not a viable ingredient, and is 100 percent useless in protecting the paint’s finish.â€� (Source: Grisanti, Stephen, “The Truth About Teflon®â€�, Professional Carwashing & Detailing, January, 1989.) (Note: the Acrylic Silicone Fluropolymer used in 3M’s Show Car Paste Wax is not Telfon.)"

 

[Steve @ Guru]

I've seen that quote before as well, but has anyone ever heard it straight from the horses mouth? I believe I saw that quote on a site that sold wax...



Just curious.

 

[jps]

There are some materials that incorporate teflon with some other polymer resin that cures at much lower temperatures. Would teflon in this state be of any use in a car wax... who knows?

 

[imported_RIC]

Has anyone seen or heard it straight from the horses mouth that Teflon has any real value in regard to car wax?

 

[Lemonxxs]

Zonyl isn't Teflon though and I quote

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >

DuPont Zonyl® fluoroadditives are finely divided white powders of polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) resin. They are a separate and distinctive new product line, very different from the well-known Teflon® PTFE molding and extrusion powders. The differences include:
Lower molecular weight
Smaller particle sizes (2 to 20 µm)
Different particle shapes and morphology
</blockquote>

Or did I mess up here?

 

[mx5]

Why would a reputable company post something like this on their website if it was not true? They are not some "I live in my mom's basement and I am trying to sell you my special formulated car wax" small company trying to make a fast buck. And since it says they are

"very different from the well-known Teflon® PTFE molding and extrusion powders" this sounds like Zonyl is a great new product for car protection.



Wax Formulations

Tests have shown that the chemical and abrasion resistant protective properties of wax formulations can be improved by the addition of Zonyl® fluoroadditives. In addition to enhancing anti-stick and low-friction behavior of coatings, Zonyl® fluoroadditives may be able to satisfy a variety of other needs, such as better water repellency, compatibility with solvent or melt coating processes, and FDA and EEC regulations (see Products page).





"the basic polymer of Zonyl® fluoroadditives is PTFE

Outstanding properties of PTFE (see Table 1), enjoyed through the use of Zonyl® fluoroadditives, can be beneficial to products made from many host materials. PTFE does not discolor or degrade in sunlight or at high temperatures. In a flame, it resists ignition and does not itself promote flame spread or significant smoke. Dielectric properties are outstanding and stable over wide ranges of temperature and frequency.



Zonyl® fluoroadditives can be used over a temperature range of -190 to +260°C (-310 to +500°F), well beyond the service temperature requirements of many materials."



As a paste, for example, they can be used as high-performance sealants or as lubricants for wear surfaces in hostile environments. The powder can be dispersed in water or an organic solvent to provide another option for direct use or as an additive.

 

[GoFast908Z]

Its been a little while since I posted, things have been crazy busy with 70 hr weeks lately and I'm way behind on posting up pics, so this will be a brief one...

This was a 2-step paint correction to fix severe swirls and holograms after having the roof and hood painted, along with some polishing of the rare Fikse FM5 wheels too.






Before

*AFTER*

Thanks for checkin it out! :cheers:

 

[imported_detailchick]

beautiful work on the black hood Jeff .The whole car is gorgeous!!:wink:

 

[imported_gewb]

Lookin' good!

But the owner needs to fix that air dam on the driver side.

Regards,
GEWB

 

[imported_Luster]

Nice work on the "Z"! Excellent correction....ancing Dot:

(Notice that "slamming" the car to 2-1/2" off the ground tends to tear off the front air dam!!!):rofl:

 

[bmw5541]

Lookin' good Jeffancing Dot:

 

[imported_Flash Gordon]

Very nice Jeff, I love the slammed look. Wonder what kinda mods are under the bonet :wizard:

 

[GoFast908Z]

Thanks!

It has a small cam and bolt ons, makes about 390rwhp I think. Oh and its loud too, very loud.

 

[imported_Flash Gordon]

Thanks!

It has a small cam and bolt ons, makes about 390rwhp I think. Oh and its loud too, very loud.

Yes, we like loud :rockon:

 

[GoFast908Z]

My neighbors didn't lol