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Old 02-02-07, 02:41   #1 (permalink)
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Just purchased Metabo PE12-175

I'm looking forward to it. It should be fun. It's all your fault
 
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Old 02-02-07, 05:41   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Just purchased Metabo PE12-175

Congratulations, it is an awesome machine.
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Old 02-03-07, 10:14   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Just purchased Metabo PE12-175

ZoranC- Hope you like it, bet you will.

A few of us seem to have been bitten by the Metabo bug lately...I got mine a little while ago too. In some ways I really like it but in others I find I prefer the Makita. I think of it as a box wrench/open-end wrench type of comparison, good to have options.
 
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Re: Just purchased Metabo PE12-175

What separates the metabo from any other make of rotary? Is it smaller ,easier to handle?
 
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Re: Just purchased Metabo PE12-175

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What separates the metabo from any other make of rotary? Is it smaller ,easier to handle?

Yes, smaller, weights less, perfectly balanced, great torque, GREAT MACHINE!

Congrats for getting it
 
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Old 02-03-07, 02:11   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Just purchased Metabo PE12-175

Congratulations! I just bought one too. Hopefully the learning curve is not too steep!
 
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ZoranC- Hope you like it, bet you will.

A few of us seem to have been bitten by the Metabo bug lately...I got mine a little while ago too. In some ways I really like it but in others I find I prefer the Makita. I think of it as a box wrench/open-end wrench type of comparison, good to have options.
Thank you all for congratulations!

Accumulator: Thank you, I too hope I will like it. Considering I have no experience with any rotary it will take me while to be able to form competent opinion on this one and even then I still won't have reference point with Makita. Could you please elaborate your cons and pros of Metabo vs. Makita? Thank you in advance!
 
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Thank you all for congratulations!

Accumulator: Thank you, I too hope I will like it. Considering I have no experience with any rotary it will take me while to be able to form competent opinion on this one and even then I still won't have reference point with Makita. Could you please elaborate your cons and pros of Metabo vs. Makita? Thank you in advance!

ZORAN - are you from Jugoslavia?

How much did you pay for it?

Never mind Accumulator

The metabo is the better mashine. Key Reason: LIGHT WEIGHT.

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Accumulator: Thank you, I too hope I will like it. Considering I have no experience with any rotary it will take me while to be able to form competent opinion on this one and even then I still won't have reference point with Makita. Could you please elaborate your cons and pros of Metabo vs. Makita?
Speaking of "competent opinions", note that I am *NOT* one of Autopia's resident rotary-meisters So take the following in the proper context:

I bought the Metabo in part because I simply don't like using the Makita all that much. It's not something I look forward to the way I can enjoy using my Cyclo. So I thought I'd treat myself to a supposedly more user-friendly rotary; TOL sells the Metabo and Irene thought I'd like it so ka-ching goes the cash register at TOL and I don't regret the purchase.

The Metabo *is* better balanced and a bit lighter and easier to handle. Not a huge difference but yeah, it handles better (note that I do *not* use the side handle on any of these machines, just a personal preference). These seemingly minor benefits could be *much* more significant to somebody else; I first used a Milwaukee (way) back in the day and anything is light and handy compared to that.

Two things I prefer about the Makita- the trigger and the position of the speed-control dial.

The Makita's trigger allows the user to feather the power on/off and to control the speed via the trigger as well as by the speed-control. And the trigger is (sensibly enough) positioned right where you'd expect it to be- underneath the machine where your index finger is naturally. The Metabo has a simple (binary) on/off switch with a "gentle start/stop" characteristic. It's positioned on top of the machine similar to the switch on the PC and I just don't like it being there; I have to change my hand position (from where I have it when polishing) to operate the switch which is a bit inconvenient and it's easier for me to have an "oops" when doing this.

Similar criticism of the speed-control: it's located on the end of the machine similar to the one on the PC. I occasionally like to adjust the speed while I'm working (remember, the Metabo's on/off switch won't effect speed adjustment like the Makita's trigger) and I have to reposition my hand to operate the control and I can't see it while doing this. The speed control on the Makita is on top of the machine where I find it easy to reach with my thumb (no repositioning of that hand) and it's easy to see.

Note that these are entirely personal-preference issues and that I tend to be set in my ways. I never liked the ergonomics of the PC and the Metabo is, to me, sorta like a rotary version of the PC. I certainly don't intend to get you (or anybody else) second-guessing their decision to buy the thing, and I was cognizant of these "issues" before I ordered mine. As I work (now and then, on and off) on rotarying the M3, there are times I reach for the Metabo and times when I reach for the Makita.

Oh, one genuine criticism of the Metabo- it has a two-prong plug (the Makita has a three-prong) and for the life of me I can't get it to stay connected to my extension cords without using one of those gizmos that hold such things together. Can't remember the last time something vexed me like this, but the plastic gizmo that holds things in place solves the problem.
 
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Re: Just purchased Metabo PE12-175

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ZORAN - are you from Jugoslavia?

How much did you pay for it?

Never mind Accumulator
Yes and no.

$231.99 total.

I hold Accumulator in high regard, when he talks I listen and go over it more than once.
 
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Re: Just purchased Metabo PE12-175

[quote=ZoranC]Yes and no.

$231.99 total.

I hold Accumulator in high regard, [quote]

So do I. I was joking. With a new toy like the metabo you don't want to think that you may have made the wrong choice.

Trust me that when you are holding the buffer to a vertical panel you will hate the makita due to its weight.
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Re: Just purchased Metabo PE12-175

Accumulator, thank you for your input. I am glad to hear your hands on experience confirms my "non hands on impressions".

Yes, I was aware of the switch/control positioning when I was making purchase decision. Usually things like that drive me nuts as I am big on design (ergonomics, simplicty, and ease of use). I hate with passion bad designs as they are harder on me and I don't see reason why things should be hard for me. After all, with all modern technology good designs are achievable, it's not like we have been making tools just few years now.

So, positioning of them on Metabo was not making me happy. However, certain aspects of Makita's design were leaving me with impression (I say "impression" because one can know for sure what is the case only after finishing several cars with it, and not many of us get to test drive the tools before purchasing them) that they will be leaving me much more unhappy than positioning of switches would and that my body will like Metabo more. So I went with Metabo.

Now "only" three things are left to accomplish:

1) Get it in my hands.

2) Have some better weather, which shouldn't take long

3) Actually achieve satisfactory result with it without messing up anything
 
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