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Old 09-24-07, 08:57   #25 (permalink)
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Re: PC with 106ff help please

Hmmm.. I haven't read all of the thread, so forgive me if this has already been said...

I have to disagree with the "how much can you expect to improve the shine on a brand new car" discussion. IME, the answer is *alot*. Even straight off the delivery truck, the finish on the majority of brand new cars isn't even *close* to what can be achieved with a few passes of a high quality finishing polish (such as 106ff), and a rotary with a finishing pad. Factories just don't have the time (or aren't willing to spend it) to bring the paint up to it's full potential. And if the car has already been through "dealer prep", the chances are good that a couple of passes of 106ff will make a *dramatic* difference.
 
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Re: PC with 106ff help please

OK, I am actually working on a video using SIP and 106FF via PC so here is my take on the whole pc/rotary thing.

While shooting the PC video I decided to shoot a section showing the difference between the PC and Rotary.

Here is the before shot:





Below is after (with one pass of each product) SIP LC orange pad & 106FF LC White pad.

Rotary

SIP - pyramid up to 1500rpm
106ff - pyramid up to 1500rpm


PC

SIP - 6
106ff - 5


Here is a side by side - Left Rotary Right PC (this is after a wipe down with alcohol/water




Here is crops of each side:








Cutting
- with one pass of each product the rotary was faster and eliminated more RIDS then the PC - of course.

Finishing - The advantage is to the Rotary again....but only slightly, the PC left the finish just as glossy as the rotary but because of the presence of more RIDS the clarity was better with the rotary.


Here is a video of the two sides:

Rotary & Porter Cable Side by Side


Now this was on black, but I also did this same thing on metallic blue/gray paint and saw no difference between finishes of the two sides:







My conclusion is a PC can breakdown polishes and does leave a great finish....with proper technique. Is it better than a rotary, no not at all...but with proper techniques this is all an enthusiast will need for normal wear and tear on the paint.
 
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Re: PC with 106ff help please

Many thanks for sharing your results.
 
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Re: PC with 106ff help please

Those results are great, for sure, but I think they would have come out quite differently on a hard clear coat. A PC couldn't even touch the clear coat on my Charger.
 
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wow blkyukon thats really cool,thanks !
 
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Re: PC with 106ff help please

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Those results are great, for sure, but I think they would have come out quite differently on a hard clear coat. A PC couldn't even touch the clear coat on my Charger.

Actually it's from GM paint and it's not too soft, plus the bottom pics are from a VW, which has a even harder clear on it.
 
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