Not Happy With Cyclo? - Page 2

Accumulator · 04-09-07, 12:23

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Originally Posted by metropolitandet

I disagree, I find that the Cyclo is very easy to get into tight spots because of the small size of the pads..

Well, it just depends on the vehicle in question. There's no way I can do some areas with the Cyclo that I *can* do by the PC...and I prefer the Cyclo by a country mile. It's a question of the actual body/housing of the Cyclo getting in the way- the pads don't stick out far enough away from it, whereas with the PC the way the pad overhangs/extends from the housing allows the pad to fit someplace that you can't get to with the Cyclo. Sometimes it's a matter of using the outer edge of the pad, the way you can do it with a rotary (if you're feeling lucky

).

Totoland Mach- Your continued enthusiasm regarding the Metabo is great, sounds like you found the perfect machine for you. Are you using it on the (painted) plastic panels of the BMWs?

J.J. · 04-09-07, 12:34

I wouldn't choose a diferent machine until DavidB's new contraption becomes available. It might be the perfect tool.

Totoland Mach · 04-09-07, 12:47

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

......Totoland Mach- Your continued enthusiasm regarding the Metabo is great, sounds like you found the perfect machine for you. Are you using it on the (painted) plastic panels of the BMWs?

Accumulator: I'm using the Metabo extensively on the plastic panels of the BMW's. The Festool works well, but this is so much easier because I can keep working with the sheet metal using one tool.

Here's a pic of the Metabo with the Meg's #7006 pad

Here's a black 530i that was terribly scratched on plastic and metal:

After compounding with Optimum + 7006 pad. Then switched to 9006 pad and Menzerna

Done

Totoland Mach

Accumulator · 04-09-07, 03:10

Totoland MACH- Thanks for the response, I figured it'd be OK as long as the speed is kept reasonable (never had issues with a rotary on the Audis) but I wanted to check.

Heh heh, the work you do has me utterly

as I struggle with my M3...wish I could just beam you over here to do it, it'd be worth whatever you'd charge. The stuff you fix (let alone with just OP on a polishing pad) looks *so* much worse than my issues yet I struggle with many, many passes using H-T EC/cutting pads

How do you like that Meg's backing plate on the Metabo?

EDIT: I'm getting forgetful....is the 7006 the polishing pad? I thought it was 7006= burgundy cutting, 8006= yellow polishing, 9006= biege finishing. I'm also getting lazy or I'd walk out to the shop and check for myself

RCBuddha · 04-09-07, 04:39

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Originally Posted by Nimble

Take this from someone that has never used a Cyclo

Why chime in then?

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I feel that the Cyclo looks bulky to me, I know it runs smooth, but it is supposed to be even louder than a PC, which would make it far louder than a nice rotary. You might not care about that, but I don't want my ears ringing after polishing.

Its not louder, the cyclo is quieter. Both make noise, but I've never needed ear plugs with either machine.

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I also see the benefit of the cyclo design, but then again, 2 small pads just don't seem ideal to me. I'll never buy a cyclo (surprise right?

, but I wouldn't hesitate in the slightest for the purchase of a quality rotary. Even then, you're looking at 100 bucks less than the cyclo.

Cyclo does double the work of the PC IME. A bit safer on the paint than a rotary, and easier to use.

HOWEVER, there is no question that in the right hands, the rotary will produce a better finish. I can't describe it, but with the right product, a rotary just makes the paint "glow" much better.

So Diesel, I'd say get both a cyclo and a rotary.

Fwiw...I have all three machines....

sneek · 04-09-07, 04:54

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

Totoland MACH- Thanks for the response, I figured it'd be OK as long as the speed is kept reasonable (never had issues with a rotary on the Audis) but I wanted to check.

Heh heh, the work you do has me utterly

as I struggle with my M3...wish I could just beam you over here to do it, it'd be worth whatever you'd charge. The stuff you fix (let alone with just OP on a polishing pad) looks *so* much worse than my issues yet I struggle with many, many passes using H-T EC/cutting pads

How do you like that Meg's backing plate on the Metabo?

EDIT: I'm getting forgetful....is the 7006 the polishing pad? I thought it was 7006= burgundy cutting, 8006= yellow polishing, 9006= biege finishing. I'm also getting lazy or I'd walk out to the shop and check for myself

the pad on the Metabo is actually a W8006...i think, the 7006 is there burgundy/maroon cutting pad.

They could have just called them 6.5" cutting/polishing/finishing pad, but that would be too simple.

My favorite part is that a W8006 is a 6.5" pad and a W8000 pad is 8".

Accumulator · 04-09-07, 05:12

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Originally Posted by RCBuddha

So Diesel, I'd say get both a cyclo and a rotary.

Fwiw...I have all three machines....

I too have 'em all (and now I have two of each

). Heh heh, easy for us to spend his money huh? Sure is nice being able to choose just the right tool for the job though.

Totoland Mach · 04-09-07, 09:01

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Originally Posted by sneek

the pad on the Metabo is actually a W8006...i think, the 7006 is there burgundy/maroon cutting pad.

They could have just called them 6.5" cutting/polishing/finishing pad, but that would be too simple.

My favorite part is that a W8006 is a 6.5" pad and a W8000 pad is 8".

Mea Culpa on me....you're right on the numbers. I'm blaming old age LOL.

See Ya Folks

Toto

RCBuddha · 04-09-07, 10:59

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

I too have 'em all (and now I have two of each

). Heh heh, easy for us to spend his money huh? Sure is nice being able to choose just the right tool for the job though.

I agree Accumulator! I've even thought about getting a Dynabrade (sp?) in case I needed even more RO oomph (for lack of a better term).

Scottwax · 04-09-07, 11:31

Very happy with my Cyclo. Won't correct paint as fast as a rotary but faster than a PC. I still use the PC too, some areas I can't get into with the Cyclo, I can with the PC and the opposite is also true.

sneek · 04-10-07, 12:32

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Originally Posted by Totoland Mach

Mea Culpa on me....you're right on the numbers. I'm blaming old age LOL.

See Ya Folks

Toto

How do you like your metabo?

Metabo > Makita ?

Accumulator · 04-10-07, 11:04

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Originally Posted by RCBuddha

I I've even thought about getting a Dynabrade (sp?) in case I needed even more RO oomph (for lack of a better term).

Heh heh, same here...I even called around until I found a local autopaint/body place that had one in stock. I'm resisting the temptation so far.

What do you wanna bet that one of us is gonna buy one of David's new machines

Sneek- Oh man, he *loves* it, and doesn't even feel the need to keep other types of rotaries around the way I do. If you don't value the trigger that the others have, the Metabo is very, very nice. But there have been some reports of them overheating when used for extended periods at very slow speeds, something that doesn't happen with the Makita.