10 Layers of Ultima PGP on Jet Black 3-Series

countrysquire · 02-01-08, 03:47

Will post under my dads username again...

Over the past month I have been adding a layer of Ultima to my car every couple of days. I now have about 10 layers on there and the paint looks remarkable. (I'm sold on Ultima) Yesterday afternoon I gave it an ONR wash and added another layer of UPGP. I took these pictures today after I had driven about 40 miles...

Interior shot...

ScheerSpeed · 02-01-08, 03:59

looks great! nice reflection

detaildoc · 02-01-08, 04:10

The car looks amazing. I love Ultima, and it is the only sealant I use nowadays. However, I am not sure that 10 layers would make a difference. A lot of people here (including myself) have found that 3 - 4 layers is optimal, and that after that there is no additional benefits in terms of looks. My recommendation would be, keep it to 3-4 layers and top it with Zaino Z8 instead. You will love the look and save a lot of Ultima PGP (which is very expensive). Good job with that car though.

countrysquire · 02-01-08, 04:33

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Originally Posted by detaildoc

The car looks amazing. I love Ultima, and it is the only sealant I use nowadays. However, I am not sure that 10 layers would make a difference. A lot of people here (including myself) have found that 3 - 4 layers is optimal, and that after that there is no additional benefits in terms of looks. My recommendation would be, keep it to 3-4 layers and top it with Zaino Z8 instead. You will love the look and save a lot of Ultima PGP (which is very expensive). Good job with that car though.

Thanks... but there is no way I will ever top Ultima with Zaino, Ultima looks to good on its own. (If I wanted my car to look like plastic I would just put a clear bra over the whole car... Only Kidding) I believe what I will do now though is use Ultima Detail Spray Plus after washes and apply Ultima PGP about every month or so.

detaildoc · 02-01-08, 04:36

That would do it also. Once a month is good. Trust me, Z8 will make your Ultima even better. It adds more wetness and depth. I am not a Zaino fan myself, except for the Z8. Have you tried Fk 425 QD? Works great also on Ultima, IMO, better than Ultima QD Spray.

countrysquire · 02-01-08, 04:42

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Originally Posted by detaildoc

That would do it also. Once a month is good. Trust me, Z8 will make your Ultima even better. It adds more wetness and depth. I am not a Zaino fan myself, except for the Z8. Have you tried Fk 425 QD? Works great also on Ultima, IMO, better than Ultima QD Spray.

Have not tried Fk 425 but have heard only great things about it. (it will be in my next order) I don't have Z8 on hand but do have Duragloss Aquawax, so I will try that after the next wash.

themightytimmah · 02-01-08, 04:53

Sure looks good! I think the only way you're going to improve on that is with a full wetsand.

rwisejr · 02-01-08, 05:33

Sweet looking ride !!! Ultima is some awesome stuff

SHICKS · 02-01-08, 05:39

Looks great!!!

I have to make a comment/observation. I have Ultima as well. The shot of you holding the camera shows orange peel. I feel that Ultima amplified the look of orange peel on my cars.

I will say that it is extremely durable and easy to use. I find that a wipe down between layers with the detail spray brings out the best.

Steve

detaildoc · 02-01-08, 05:42

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Originally Posted by SHICKS

Looks great!!!

I have to make a comment/observation. I have Ultima as well. The shot of you holding the camera shows orange peel. I feel that Ultima amplified the look of orange peel on my cars.

I will say that it is extremely durable and easy to use. I find that a wipe down between layers with the detail spray brings out the best.

Steve

Not just Ultima, but sealants in general will magnify the underlying paint structure, which is why it is important to polish before applying a sealant as it will bring out any existing swirl marks and any other paint defects. In my own experience, I have found that BMW's are notorious for having orange peel.

SHICKS · 02-01-08, 05:46

I understand that sealants enhance imperfections. I just feel that Ulltima brings them out a little more. It's a great product for ease of use and satisfactory results. Of course my cars looked the best using waxes, but I could not stand the lack of durability.

Steve

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Originally Posted by detaildoc

Not just Ultima, but sealants in general will magnify the underlying paint structure, which is why it is important to polish before applying a sealant as it will bring out any existing swirl marks and any other paint defects. In my own experience, I have found that BMW's are notorious for having orange peel.

detaildoc · 02-01-08, 05:58

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Originally Posted by SHICKS

I understand that sealants enhance imperfections. I just feel that Ulltima brings them out a little more. It's a great product for ease of use and satisfactory results. Of course my cars looked the best using waxes, but I could not stand the lack of durability.

Steve

Ultima is the only sealant I use. I love this stuff. I recently experimented topping it with Cleakote Carnauba Moose Wax, and the result was amazing.